Talking with Your Kids about Fat People

Posted January 27, 2012

The other day after work I was browsing the Fat o' Sphere and came upon Elizabeths' post over at The Extender on Sharran Alexander, the UK's only woman sumo wrestler. From there I went to the Daily Mail article for more details as I didn't even know there WAS women's sumo! The article itself isn't important here, but my son's reaction to the pictures there of Sharran is. And then we had a conversation that went something like this:

Gabe: Mom, that lady is really big!

Me: Yes she is, she's very strong. She's a sumo wrestler.

Gabe: Sumo wrestler?

Me: Yeah, it's a sport from Japan.

Gabe: Japan!? (Gabe loves the idea of Japan) ... her skin is black. (Gabe hasn't seen very many black people in his life, so this is still new for him)

Me: Mmhmm. And ours is white. (We compare arms) People come in different colours, like black and white, brown, kind of yellow, all kinds.

Gabe: I want to see some sumo.

Me: *opens Youtube and we watch a match from National Geographic for a few minutes*

Gabe: Mom! Those guys are huge!

Me: Yes, they are! They're VERY strong! They're sumo wrestlers called 'yoko zuna' and being big is part of their sport. *I open a video of women's sumo wrestling. The women are much smaller in comparison and the match is much faster*

Gabe: Mom, those ladies look like you. (And they do. If I trained, I could probably qualify to do sumo)

Me: Yup. It takes all sizes, honey. You'll probably be tall and slim like your dad, I'm short and fat, and then there's everything in between. And it's all good.

Gabe: Ok mom. You come play with me now?

 

And we did.

On More, Spinning Forward and Occupy

Posted January 23, 2012

Since my last Occupy related post on Friday, things haven't got much better but at least they didn't get much worse (and by not much worse I mean that I'm probably going to get my modly powers revoked and they're REALLY not happy about my blog). It is amazing to me how hard people will fight against something if that something includes acknowledging their privilege, or that they were/are wrong. I've been there multiple times, but most recently; I had a former friend tell me before I moved that in the past I had said and done things that had hurt them. My response was essentially "Well, I didn't mean those things like THAT, so ya, that's just your opinion." Ouch. It wasn't until I read Liss' post on Magical Intent (go on, go read it!) that I realized how incredibly wrong and terrible my response to their feelings was. Via Shakesville:

Magical Intent is the principle by which someone who has said or done something offensive, hurtful, rage-making, marginalizing, and/or otherwise contemptible argues that the person to whom they've said or done it has no right to be offended, hurt, enraged, alienated, and/or otherwise disdainful because their intent was not to generate that reaction.

In other words: "I didn't intend for you to feel that way, so if you do feel that way, don't blame me! My intent magically inoculates me from responsibility for what I actually said and how it was received!" (Sound familiar with my struggle lately? It should, because that's exactly what's been happening. The whole post, and it's second part, is worth reading and bookmarking and sharing, so go read, bookmark and share!)

Bryan, if you're reading, I'm deeply sorry. Someday I hope you can forgive me. I don't deserve it, but I can hope.

We learn (I hope), we grow (I hope), we move forward (I hope) because the world only spins forward. Progress is the only way to go because dammit I refuse to stand still and I definitely am not going backwards. Whether Occupy Nanaimo is ready to realize it or not, words mean things and intent isn't everything, infact, it's practically nothing, especially when it comes to online communication. The words we use and the actions we take aren't just the means to an end, they ARE the end we'll end up with.

This is why I believe so strongly in the principles of non-violence and non-cooperation for Occupy in general. If we use these tools to create our better world, we'll eventually end up in a place where violence is never the answer, where it's not even contemplated as an option. Signs like the one I posted on Friday (the photo and ensuing discussion have been taken down) wouldn't exist because hey, the person who made the sign wouldnt' equate fatness with greed and would dream of alienating her bigger sisters from the march. Noone would use racist, sexist, abelist, violent, homophobic or otherwise harmful language for the same reason; we recognize that words have power and those words have no place in that society. I'm a dreamer, I'm all in, and dammit, I expect MORE from the people who are my allies. I expect MORE than hiding behind excuses of 'that's not what a mod's job is'.


Music Monday!

Posted January 23, 2012

As I'm running out the door, enjoy this! Big Girl, You Are Beautiful! by Mika

Celebrate Roe with Trust Women Week!

Posted January 21, 2012

This week is a big week for reproductive choice advocates; the 39th anniversary of Roe v. Wade is being celebrated at MoveOn.org with a push-back against 2011 being the year of (overt) War on Women in the United States. Last year was the year a record number of anti-abortion, anti-woman laws were passed, everything from invasive and unneccesary ultrasound laws to laws on parental consent. HR 358, called by many women's rights activists the Let Women Die Act, was passed in the House of Representatives. This bill would allow doctors to 'excersise their conscience' and not provide a life saving abortion to a woman in need. There are many many other awful things rolled up into HR 358, you can read about them at that link. I hope I don't need to remind anyone reading that abortion is a safe, LEGAL medical procedure both in the US and Canada and is protected (supposedly) by our right to privacy, safety and bodily integrity. (2012 isn't shaping up to be a great year to be an abortion provider either-check out Rachel Maddow's story from the other night for a new and horrifying chapter in abortion provider harassment.)

Personally, I'm prochoice. I believe in women. I trust women to make their own choices. I don't have to like or agree with their choices but I do have to respect those choices. I know that it's absolutely none of my business what a woman does with her own body, whether that has to do with pregnancy, fat, clothing, make-up or anything else. It's HER body, not mine, and that means, as a fully autonomous being, she gets to do what she wants. Women are not second class citizens. However, after a year like 2011, where even in Canada the spectre of reopening the abortion debate has loomed several times, I wonder about that. Harper doesn't need to reopen the abortion debate; he has a majority in the House of Commons. He can simply introduce the legislation and make it pass by virtue of the numbers. He can tell the Senate, our House of sober second thought, to pass it because many of the senators owe their positions to him. There wouldn't be a debate and very suddenly, my right to safety and bodily integrity is gone. If I can't say no to a pregnancy, that means I can never really say yes to one either. Me, and literally half the population of my country, would not have the same rights as the other half. Such legislation, if ever passed, would go right to the Supreme Court and very likely found to be unconstitutional, but still, while it's being debated, my rights are gone.

In the USA, Roe v. Wade is the landmark legislation that said a woman's right to privacy is of paramount importance and that the State has no right to bar her from abortion. In Canada in 1988, the Supreme Court declared that:

  • "The right to liberty... guarantees a degree of personal autonomy over important decisions intimately affecting his or her private life. ... The decision whether or not to terminate a pregnancy is essentially a moral decision and in a free and democratic society, the conscience of the individual must be paramount to that of the state."

If you want to help this week and push back against the anti-abortion right wing extremists who are trying to put women back in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant, please visit the link to MoveOn.org's Online March and pop over to the Silver Ribbon Campaign. One in three women in North America gets an abortion. One in three North American women are not murderers. We're not morally loose or sluts or crazy or anything else the extremists say. We're just making the best decision that we can, a tough and private decision, according to our own lives and situations. Abortion needs to stay safe, legal and accessible for every woman. It's our fundamental right and one I fear we are in danger of losing.

Disappointed & Disillusioned w Occupy

Posted January 19, 2012

GIANT trigger warning for fat hate, violent rhetoric and imagery, and racist language.

Today has been a rough day with my local Occupy. It started with a long, heated conversation about using violent and/or eliminationist language, a conversation that lasted nearly all day even though I was at work, (see below for a transcript if you dare) and now, browsing through the photos from the Eco March last weekend, I found this:

Image Copyright Candace Freedom-Lover

Mentally I'm exhausted. I'm saddened and disappointed to be fighting with supposed progressives about whether or not saying they want to scalp someone is actually racist, or if it's just me being offended. It doesn't matter how articulate, reasonable or accurate I am, I get shot down.

I'm tired of letting things slide that I know I shouldn't, but am letting them slide because I knew this kind of day would happen; I'm too sensitive, I'm censoring people, there's freedom of speech in this country you know! So I should just say nothing when someone says "The thing that pisses me off is that we didn't scalp Gordon Campbell as he waddled his useless ass off to Europe." or use the terms 'crazy' or 'nuts' to talk about people they don't like or don't agree with. I should say nothing in the face of this particular sign because of course she doesn't mean ME or any of the other fat folks who are a part of Occupy, she means those OTHER fat people, the bad ones who eat bad food and ruin the planet with their over-consumption.(Of course, I did leave a comment on it saying "Nice to know us fat people are to blame for the world's ills. Makes me feel really welcome!" Just waiting for the backlash on that.) Edited to add: Comments now include "Truth hurts, life goes on" and, as I knew there would be "oh, she didn't mean it/mean it that way." And now, well, the sign is only aimed at the fat 1%. So I guess it's ok to attack rich fat people, but not rich middle class or poor people.

The thing that's REALLY REALLY bugging me is that, although I have repeatedly said that I think Occupy can be better than it is, and that's why I'm bringing this stuff up, it comes back to me being unreasonable, a censor, an enemy to free speech. I let the thread where the argument originally happened die because derailing the entire page for it because of 2 people arguing with me wasn't worth it.  So we took it to the internet specific group where one of the guys wanted to talk about moderator's personal opinions having too much sway, and that we should just stick to our basic guidelines. These are my responses to various posts by various people, with thier comments paraphrased as I don't actually have permission to repost them whole. I'm plunking it here to help me get it off my chest and also to show what I'm up against in a supposedly progressive space like Occupy. 

Me: I'd just like to say that I've actually let a lot of stuff slide that, if I thought for a second anyone would back me up on it, I would've said something about it. I've been, IMO, lenient and let a lot of things go that in a more truly progressive space, would be called out. Asking people not to use racist, homophobic, abelist, or sexist language, or violent rhetoric, isn't censorship or limiting their right to freedom of expression. It's asking them to have some basic compassion and thought for what they actually post on our wall. It's challenging their privilege, thier supposed right to use language that's oppressive, and ya, people get defensive (because noone likes to get called on this stuff) but that's how we grow (hopefully). Is it REALLY that hard to think of a better word or different phrase than 'scalping'? Is it REALLY so difficult to not use language that is steeped deeply in racial oppression? I don't think so, because if it IS, Occupy Nanaimo isn't nearly as progressive and open minded as I thought it was.
P.s I'm not offended by the term 'scalping', I'm contemptuous. I dont' give a flying fuck if someone is offended by what I write, anywhere, but I AM concerned with harm. Using racially loaded terms like scalping hurts us as a movement and alienates our First Nation allies. It was a real thing done to real people. It's not an abstract concept from the distant past. Scalping took place well into the 20th century, and there are STILL places in the world where simply being First Nations will get you attacked, especially if you live somewhere that a big company wants to mine or deforest."

In return I got "But scalping was done in Europe by white people to other white people!" and that how you use a word is more important than what the word actually means. "Meaning is use specific".

Me: Sorry **** but words mean things. It's not 'just' language, or are you going to argue that someone who uses the word 'nigger' on our page can go ahead and do that? I mean, it's 'just' language, right?

After THAT I got "well how YOU see the word doesn't actually make it wrong" and "scalping was just 1 of many bad things that happened. Are we never allowed to mention those?"  And then he got pissy with me for using the N-word to make my point about language, and told to 'grow the fuck up'. Charming!

Me: Whether it's scalping or lynching, another historically racist act, my broader point that people are missing is that this violent eliminationist language is not acceptable for a progressive space. That's the kind of language the violent and ignorant use. Are we stupid or ignorant? No, because I've clearly explained things. At this point the only arguement that can be made for continuing to use/allow that kind of language is privilege. "Well I can say this stuff because it doesn't affect ME. I'M not racist! I'm not REALLY advocating violence!" It's just so much easier to keep using this language than to THINK, isnt' it?

More about freedom of speech, as long as it's not hate speech, and how wrong I am, how ignorant, defensive and close minded I am, and how dare I use the n-word just to 'win' at a debate! 

Me: Ok, let's pretend for a moment that I'm coming from an advanced, progressive and feminist space and actually know what I'm talking about. Let's pretend I've spent years studying and debating and talking about this, living it and writing about it. Now that we're all on the same page, please try to understand; this isn't about winning a debate, it's about working with our group to get rid of its defensiveness, ignorance and close-mindedness surrounding certain language. The wonderful thing about freedom of speech is it allows you to really see where a person's coming from. What we say and how we say it matters. Words mean things, and it's not just my opinion that scalping, or lynching, is an oppressive, racially loaded word, it's fact. The really troubling thing for ME, as a progressive, as a First Nations ally, as a feminist and as a moderator of this space, is that anyone is actually DEFENDING their ability to use this language. To me, it's reprehensible and tells me a lot more about you (general you/them) than it does about me. I cannot condone the use of violent, eliminationist language on our page, for any reason. Aren't we better than that?

Apparently not, because immediately following that I'm told that I'm 'parading around like one of our trolls' and that the page is a free and open space where people can say whatever they please. Again I'm being told I'm 'offended' by the original scalping comment, and that words only have value/meaning if you give it to them. This guy's not going to go all 1984 on our pages by censoring people, oh no he's not! It's just me who's got the problem.

Me: Parading around? Really? Making a strong argument that none of you have actually been able to refute is 'parading'? Should I get myself a trombone and a shiny hat? Maybe some nice boots to go with it? It's a free and open space that can be better than it is. Thats' all I'm asking for really, is that people THINK before they post. I expect more, I expect better, from a supposedly progessive and open-minded space like Occupy. My standards, they are high, but like I've said, I've also let other language slide in the past because I didn't want to rock the boat. Why? I KNEW that this discussion we're having, this dog-piling on me about language, would happen. But I can't swallow that shit anymore, so here we are.

A while later Parading came back with "We're doing what?" and basically that policing language in this way is outside admin/mod duties, and that hey, I shouldn't allow words to have negative meanings. Seriously? *sigh*

Me: Again, you're missing my entire point. It's not my personal opinion that saying "I wish I'd scapled so and so" is racist and oppressive and violent. That's reality. Its' a fact. I'm saying that there's no place for that kind of language in Occupy. It is incredibly close minded to continue to want to use that kind of language in the face of the arguements I've presented. It's not just my personal preference here, it's years of experience in actual progressive spaces, with actual progressives. It's distrubing to me that you and everyone else who's responded to this thread has sidestepped my point of "But don't you think Occupy should be BETTER THAN THAT?" with "But free speech!" Or "Just don't take it so personally, Jen" or "words don't really have meanings!", with that last one taking the absolute verbal cake. Words have meanings. Just because those meanings don't make YOU personally uncomfortable doesnt' indicate that the words themselves are empty syllables. If we're actually serious about making Occupy a safe and open space for everyone, we need to be serious about what kind of language we present.

And now more 'but scalping isn't a racist term!' and 'it's just an expressive comment, not a threat!'

Me: Words aren't racist? Really? What about cracker? Kike? Chink? Gook? Wagon-burner? Sand-nigger? Towel head? Those are all racist terms. They're racist no matter who says them, though context is important. As with swearing, there's a difference between calling someone an obvious racial epithet and using it as an example, as I have done. According to M I should be allowed to use this language on the page because hey, words don't really mean things! If someone gets mad, I'll just tell them not to let my words affect them negatively, right? I should also be allowed to say "God, I wish someone could just go shoot Harper in the face." or "Man, I wish someone would bomb Parliament and wipe out all those politicians who are messing things up for this country." Or how about "Geeze, I wish someone would beat the crap out of Bill Gates. That guy's such a jerk for having all that money." I'm not *directly* saying that *I* want to go do these things, so it's OK! I'm only wishing harm on people, it's not a big deal, and it's not like noone's ever heard violent rhetoric before and then decided to follow through! That's NEVER HAPPENED. (That was sarcasm, btw).

Fine, we disagree. You don't think it's a big deal, and I really do. I think Occupy Nanaimo should grow and become better, you and others don't. As admins part of our job is to create safe space for dialogue. We agree that racism, sexism, homophobia and other things in the guidelines are NOT ok, why not violent language? Why the double standard?
Apparently no, words are never racist. They're just empty syllables until you put some feeling or intent or something behind them. It's like magic!  It's too bad Canada's hate speech laws and our Charter disagree with him (and by it's too bad I actually mean I'm so glad!) After that there was an attempt by me to point out that no, intent isn't everything because if you say to me "Hey baby, nice ass" and meant it as a compliment, and I charge you with sexual harassment, the law is on my side.
Edited on Friday evening to add that now the argument has devolved into accusing me of abusing my modly powers and 'pushing' Occupy in a personal direction instead of a group one. Also, in reference to parading, I was offered shiny hat, trombone and sheet music by one of the guys. I offered to continue to push for better language, but make it clear that it's coming from me personally and not from the mod team. Personally I think that just makes the rest of the mod team look bad, but if they dont' want to be associated with making Occupy a more progressive space, I can't make them. If this comes up at a GA, as has been threatened, to take away my modly powers, I'm more than ready to argue my point for a better Occupy Nanaimo and I'm pretty sure most of those assembled would agree with me. Oh yes, there was also a pointed question about why I even get to BE a mod, seeing as how I'm not at the GAs very much and don't DO enough for Occupy. Seriously? If me busting my brain the last 36 hours isn't work for Occupy, I don't know what is.

More as it develops, or not. Tomorrow is Friday, so thank Goddess for that.


#SOPAStrike!

Posted January 18, 2012

Today's non-post has been brought to you by #SOPAStrike! More at this LINK.

Why am I striking? Aren't I a Canadian? Well, the internet affects us all, the way a collaborative global network should. SOPA and PIPA are bills that would allow a company to order the shut down of a website for even *suspected* copyright infringement, then fight a lengthy and costly legal battle to get back up and running. It's the censorship of the net, pure and simple, and it's evil. Please, visit the link and write to your member of Congress and Senators and tell them to vote NO on these peices of legislation. The future of the internet is at stake.

Childhood Obesity-Now with 5-2-1-0 more rules!

Posted January 17, 2012

When you google the words 'childhood obesity canada' the first site that comes up is the Childhood Obesity Foundation, a registered British Columbia charity that's "dedicated to educating Canadian children, their families and care givers, educators, business and government about the problem of childhood obesity." As a website it's bright and colourful, well laid out and easy to navigate. The other day I went straight to the Facts/Complications of Childhood Obesity section to see what was in there and it didn't disappoint: did you know obesity can lead to dementia? Me neither! However, under the "Who's At Risk" section, buried under the usual calories in, calories out arguement, were these reasons a child might be overweight or obese: 

  • comes from a family of overweight people where genetics may be a factor, especially if healthy eating and physical activity are not a priority in the family
  • comes from a low-income family who do not have the resources or time to make healthy eating and active living a priority
  • has a genetic disease or hormone disorder such as Prader-Willi syndrome or Cushing's syndrome

Well huzzah! Something based in reality and studies, not stereotypes! The site also acknowledges here that kids who are overweight or obese face a lot of social stigma, bullying and are at risk of depression and suicide. Just ask the kids in Georgia what that's like.

Under "What Familes Can Do" there is a 5-2-1-0 plan, where 5 is for servings of fruits and veg, 2 is the maximum amount of screen time a day, 1 is the desired amount of hours of physical activity per day, and 0 is the number of sugary drinks kids should have.  There is also a list of other things, like be authoritative when it comes to meal times, snacks, etc, don't set your kids up to 'fail' by keeping junk food in the house, and have a healthy pregnancy, as both underweight and overweight infants can become obese. (The only study I've seen shows that infants who are hungry in the womb go on to put on 'extra' weight because their body is deep in survival mode and never really leaves it.) Finally, at the very bottom, is a note on diets. Again, this is a positive thing and if it were my site it'd be at the top of the page.

"Placing a normal or overweight child on a diet is known to harm a child’s health. It can affect their normal growth and development, and damage their delicate self-esteem. Focusing on a child’s weight can stigmatize a child and may cause further over-eating. Focus on the child, not their weight. Regardless of your child’s weight or shape, help them to love and respect themselves by praising their skills and strengths."

The entire Schools section is a repeat of the 5-2-1-0 thing, but under Government is something a bit scary. The Childhood Obesity Foundation thinks that the government of Canada needs to fund more obesity treatment centres, lamenting that there are only a 'handful' across the country. What is an obesity treatment centre? That sounds like a specialized fat camp to me! Nothing says "love your kids just the way they are" than sending them away to a treatment centre to 'fix' them, especially when noone knows how to permanently make a fat person thin.

On the Board of Directors are doctors, lots and lots of doctors, and a lawyer, all here in my very own province of British Columbia. Their Mission Statement is as follows:

The mission of the Childhood Obesity Foundation is to identify, evaluate and promote best practices in healthy nutrition and physical activity to reduce the prevalence of childhood obesity.

The vision of the Childhood Obesity Foundation is children and youth of Canada free of chronic diseases that ensue from obesity.

Good luck, folks (and I mean that sarcastically) as there have always been, and always will be, fat people. Somehow I think these doctors have forgotten that correlation does not equal causation. Even if every kid in the country followed the 5-2-1-0 rules, had a neighbourhood where they could go play and be safe outside, had parents who could afford healthy nutritious food at every meal, had time then to eat those meals with their kids, do every single good thing to promote health and not thinness, there would still be fat kids! Then what are they going to do? Throw them in an obesity treatment centre?

Overall the site is definitely not something I would send a friend too if they wanted info on childhood obesity. It's a lot of scare-mongering wrapped up in assumptions and I think might do more harm than good, despite the little gems of 'no diets' and 'fat can be genetic or economic/class related' hidden away in there. Is there a childhood obesity website out there written by a FA person? If there isn't, I know what my next project will be, and I know just who to get to help me out.

In the meantime, here's a pic of Gabe telling the COF to chill out.



Monkeying Around w Obesity Research

Posted January 12, 2012

Today's post is up over at Fierce Fatties! Did you know fat people are fat because they eat too much and dont' move enough, and that monkeys are just like people? Me neither! Go check it out.

The Childhood Obesity Foundation website post will be up here over the weekend. Gabe and I ended up playing our very first game of Pathinder together so I didn't end up finishing it when I meant too. Stay tuned!

Review: Childhood Obesity Foundation.ca

Posted January 12, 2012

There is so much fail going on at this website I barely even know where to start. There is so much fail I'm not done writing my post yet, and must finish it on my lunch break! (Remember, I'm on Pacific time) For now, I leave you with this little teaser: did you know that obesity leads to dementia? Me neither!

Intersectional: Fat, Feminism and Anger

Posted January 11, 2012

I've been following Fierce Fatties anti-Strong 4 Life campaign (that'd be the one with the horrible billboards that shame fat kids) and today at the blog Shannon has a peice up about being blocked by their Twitter account. In the comments, one reads in part "If you want your messages to be heard, and to be not censored out, then conduct yourself in a fashion that doesn’t give the opposition completely legitimate reasons to silence you."

Ok, number 1, there IS no legitimate reason to silence someone in a debate or argument (barring personal attacks or threats, obviously). Number 2? This 'watch your tone' thing is a silencing technique. Using strong language, including profanity, isn’t wrong or bad in and of itself. Being asked to talk calmly or ‘reasonably’ or ‘logically’ about something instead of being passionate or angry is something feminists and thier supporters get all the time. I’m sorry, but I can’t NOT get pissed when things get personal. I can't seperate myself into nice little boxes for you; woman/fat/mom/Pagan/etc. I am all these things all the time. Our fat bodies? Our kid’s fat bodies? That’s pretty damn personal and we’re not sitting by allowing S4L to think we support them. Our voices raised is SO much more important than whether or not we’re calm or logical. Silence is saying “This is ok with me”, and this campaign? NOT OK. It's complete and utter shit and the people who created it should be ashamed of themselves and need to be made aware of the damage they're doing. Along with phoning the folks below, please sign this PETITION up at Change.org against the billboards.

Linda Matzigkeit (doing interviews in defense of the billboards)
Vice President of CHOA
404 785 7824 (her admin’s number, so please be polite)
linda.matzigkeit@choa.org

Stephanie Walsh (doing interviews in defense of the billboards)
Medical Director of CHOA
404 785 6104 (her admin’s number, so please be polite)
stephanie.walsh@choa.org

Kevin McClelland (who they direct you to for complaints about the billboards)
Public Relations Director for CHOA
404 785 7600
kevin.mcclelland@choa.org

Children’s Foundation
404-785-4483

choagiving@choa.org

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